(RNS) — From the South Side of Chicago to global stages, Dr. Che “Rhymefest” Smith has lived at the crossroads of art, money and spiritual searching. Amber and Tom sit down with the Grammy- and Academy Award-winning songwriter, educator and public servant to explore what happens when inspiration intersects with industry and calling becomes responsibility.

Rhymefest reflects on cultural currency, hip-hop, commerce and the spiritual roots of creativity. He shares unforgettable stories: being broke in Brazil, an accountant instructing him to spend $10,000 in a week, and navigating an industry that rarely teaches artists how to steward success.

The conversation moves beyond music to public service, as Rhymefest describes his work on the Chicago Board of Education as a form of ministry — overseeing billion-dollar budgets while staying grounded in community and purpose.

It’s a wide-ranging, soulful conversation about art as a vocation, money as a tool and the responsibility to use both in service of something bigger.

About Dr. Che Rhymefest Smith:

• Dr. Che “Rhymefest” Smith is a Grammy- and Academy Award-winning songwriter and recording artist. He is also an educator and public servant, currently serving on the Chicago Board of Education, helping to oversee a $10 billion budget for more than 300,000 students.

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